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  • psaxena
    06-11 04:30 PM
    I donate the way that the left hand doesn't even come to know what right hand donated..

    So for you to know that.. naah not happening...

    ........And you have not contributed a dime yet to IV?




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  • AllVNeedGcPc
    06-27 02:47 PM
    Instead of telling them what they will lose, lets tell them what they gained from us and what they would not have if it were not for the immigrants.




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  • chanduv23
    06-13 03:32 PM
    Come on folks - please donate generously to IV

    Our donations go long way towards lobbying efforts




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  • s_r_e_e
    08-14 11:45 AM
    Dear IV,
    Its not about me. I am planning to do a flower or some campaign that all will agree upon in less than a week. We must do before the next bulletin comes out.
    Is it possible for IV to send a very good number of flowers to the departments.


    i believe IV leadership has mentioned many times that 'more visa numbers' is the only solution to this mess. Which can be only done by changes in law.When IV planned some thing for it (recapture bill phone call campaign) the participation was not great.

    I wonder, every one running like headless chicken solves any thing.

    what demand are you planning to put forward with this new flower/other campaign?



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  • pappu
    08-12 10:55 AM
    Senate Passage of Border Security Legislation

    August 12, 2010

    Today, I come to the floor to seek unanimous consent to pass a smart, tough, and effective $600 million bill that will significantly enhance the security and integrity of our nation’s southern border—which currently lacks the resources needed to fully combat the drug smugglers, gun-runners, human-traffickers, money launderers and other organized criminals that seek to do harm to innocent Americans along our border….

    The best part of this border package, Mr. President, is that it is fully paid for and does not increase the deficit by a single penny. In actuality, the Congressional Budget Office has determined that this bill will yield a direct savings to taxpayers of $50 million….

    The emergency border funds we are passing today are fully paid for by assessing fees on certain types of companies who hire foreign workers using certain types of visas in a way that Congress did not intend. I want to take a moment to explain exactly what we are doing in this bill a little further because I want everyone to clearly understand how these offsets are designed.

    In 1990, Congress realized that the world was changing rapidly and that technological innovations like the internet were creating a high demand in the United States for high-tech workers to create new technologies and products. Consequently, Congress created the H-1B visa program to allow U.S. employers to hire foreign tech workers in special circumstances when they could not find an American citizen who was qualified for the job.

    Many of the companies that use this program today are using the program in the exact way Congress intended. That is, these companies (like Microsoft, IBM, and Intel) are hiring bright foreign students educated in our American universities to work in the U.S. for 6 or 7 years to invent new product lines and technologies so that Microsoft, IBM, and Intel can sell more products to the American public. Then—at the expiration of the H-1B visa period—these companies apply for these talented workers to earn green cards and stay with the company.

    When the H-1B visa program is used in this manner, it is a good program for everyone involved. It is good for the company. It is good for the worker. And it is good for the American people who benefit from the products and jobs created by the innovation of the H-1B visa holder.

    Every day, companies like Oracle, Cisco, Apple and others use the H-1B visa program in the exact way I have just described—and their use of the program has greatly benefitted this country.

    But recently, some companies have decided to exploit an unintended loophole in the H-1B visa program to use the program in a manner that many in Congress, including myself, do not believe is consistent with the program’s intent.

    Rather than being a company that makes something, and simply needs to bring in a talented foreign worker to help innovate and create new products and technologies—these other companies are essentially creating “multinational temp agencies” that were never contemplated when the H-1B program was created.

    The business model of these newer companies is not to make any new products or technologies like Microsoft or Apple does. Instead, their business model is to bring foreign tech workers into the United States who are willing to accept less pay than their American counterparts, place these workers into other companies in exchange for a “consulting fee,” and transfer these workers from company to company in order to maximize profits from placement fees. In other words, these companies are petitioning for foreign workers simply to then turn around and provide these same workers to other companies who need cheap labor for various short term projects.

    Don’t take my word for it. If you look at the marketing materials of some of the companies that fall within the scope covered by today’s legislation, their materials boast about their “outsourcing expertise” and say that their advantage is their ability to conduct what they call “labor arbitrage” which is—in their own words—“transferring work functions to a lower cost environment for increased savings.”

    The business model used by these companies within the United States is creating three major negative side effects. First, it is ruining the reputation of the H-1B program, which is overwhelmingly used by good actors for beneficial purposes. Second, according to the Economic Policy institute, it is lowering the wages for American tech workers already in the marketplace. Third, it is also discouraging many of our smartest students from entering the technology industry in the first place. Students can see that paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for advanced schooling is not worth the cost when the market is being flooded with foreign temporary workers willing to do tech-work for far less pay because their foreign education was much cheaper and they intend to move back home when their visa expires to a country where the cost of living is far less expensive.

    This type of use of the H-1B visa program will be addressed as part of comprehensive immigration reform and will likely be dramatically restricted. We will be reforming the legal immigration system to encourage the world’s best and brightest individuals to come to the United States and create the new technologies and businesses that will employ countless American workers, but will discourage businesses from using our immigration laws as a means to obtain temporary and less-expensive foreign labor to replace capable American workers.

    Nevertheless, I do wish to clarify a previous mischaracterization of these firms, where I labeled them as “chop shops.” That statement was incorrect, and I wish to acknowledge that. In the tech industry, these firms are sometimes known as “body shops” and that’s what I should have said.

    While I strongly oppose the manner in which these firms are using the H-1B visa to accomplish objectives that Congress never intended, it would be unfortunate if anyone concluded from my remarks that these firms are engaging in illegal behavior.

    But I also want to make clear that the purpose of this fee is not to target businesses from any particular country. Many news articles have reported that the only companies that will be affected by this fee are companies based in India and that, ipso facto, the purpose of this legislation must be to target Indian IT companies.

    Well, it is simply untrue that the purpose of this legislation is to target Indian companies. We are simply raising fees for businesses who use the H-1B visa to do things that are contrary to the program’s original intent.

    Visa fees will only increase for companies with more than 50 workers who continue to employ more than 50 percent of their employees through the H-1B program. Congress does not want the H-1B visa program to be a vehicle for creating multinational temp agencies where workers do not know what projects they will be working on—or what cities they will be working in—when they enter the country.

    The fee is based solely upon the business model of the company, not the location of the company.

    If you are using the H-1B visa to innovate new products and technologies for your own company to sell, that is a good thing regardless of whether the company was originally founded in India, Ireland, or Indiana.

    But if you are using the H-1B visa to run a glorified international temp agency for tech workers in contravention of the spirit of the program, I and my colleagues believe that you should have to pay a higher fee to ensure that American workers are not losing their jobs because of unintended uses of the visa program that were never contemplated when the program was created.

    This belief is consistent regardless of whether the company using these staffing practices was founded in Bangalore, Beijing, or Boston.

    Raising the fees for companies hiring more than 50 percent of their workforce through foreign visas will accomplish two important goals. First, it will provide the necessary funds to secure our border without raising taxes or adding to the deficit. Second, it will level the playing field for American workers so that they do not lose out on good jobs here in America because it is cheaper to bring in a foreign worker rather than hire an American worker.

    Let me tell you what objective folks around the world are saying about the impact of this fee increase. In an August 6, 2010, Wall Street Journal article, Avinash Vashistha—the CEO of a Bangalore based off-shoring advisory consulting firm—told the Journal that the new fee in this bill “would accelerate Indian firms’ plans to hire more American-born workers in the U.S.” What’s wrong with that? In an August 7, 2010 Economic Times Article, Jeya Kumar, a CEO of a top IT company, said that this bill would “erode cost arbitrage and cause a change in the operational model of Indian offshore providers.”

    The leaders of this business model are agreeing that our bill will make it more expensive to bring in foreign tech workers to compete with American tech workers for jobs here in America. That means these companies are going to start having to hire U.S. tech workers again.

    So Mr. President, this bill is not only a responsible border security bill, it has the dual advantage of creating more high-paying American jobs.

    Finally, Mr. President, I want to be clear about one other thing. Even though passing this bill will secure our border, I again say that the only way to fully restore the rule of law to our entire immigration system is by passing comprehensive immigration reform….

    The urgency for immigration reform cannot be overstated because it is so overdue. The time for excuses is now over, it is now time to get to work.




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  • sundevil
    03-13 02:25 PM
    We were getting ready to file 140 but never did. This is(or was) at the time top 5 market cap tech company, so I doubt they went out to make money on it. Its not Software related either and harder to match people to my LC. I was so close yet so far, in those days would have got my GC in less than a year after that point. 3 more LCs and 3 140s including one NIW, I am stuck here now.

    You could say Murphy's law aptly applies to my immigration :)
    "Everything that can Go Wrong will go wrong" and it did.

    You can use that priority date if I140 was filed for you based on that and approved. Was I140 filed for you ? Or you just abandoned it while labor was pending ?? If the later, your employer must have made money when labor substitution was allowed :) (Making a BIG assumption here )



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  • Milind123
    09-13 12:17 PM
    mohitb272, wolfsappi, kanaihya and of course sam

    Thank you for your contribution. kanaihya no contribution is small. I consider it a very big contribution because you made it in spite of having a big debt.

    We need one more newbee to squeeze the trigger so I can have the pleasure of taking the last shot in this round. :cool:




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  • husamymd
    01-03 04:30 PM
    I am a July 27th filer, got email that AP approved Dec 20th. Not recieved it physically yet.



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  • lakshman.easwaran
    07-14 03:47 PM
    Scheduled on 07/18/2008
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  • raysaikat
    01-06 12:35 AM
    Couldn't agree more - especially about paying for ANY college here vs. in India.

    I studied in IIT (B.Tech), got M.S. and Ph.D. from here and now a professor. My observations/opinions are as follows:

    1. Up to class XII, Indian schools are good. However, there are certain fundamental differences. Indian schools teach more material and sometimes more challenging material than U.S. schools. However, the majority of the students end up merely "remembering" and not learning; even in sciences. In general, an average student from an Indian school system would "know" more than an average student from an U.S. high-school, although in my view such "knowledge" (remembering something as a "data") is worthless. However, U.S. school system tends not to kill the curiosity and creativity of the students, which Indian system does. For good and brilliant students, however, there is no clear trend; you can get excellent and creative students from both systems.

    2. There are a handful of fine undergraduate institutes in India. The names comes to my mind are IITs, some RECs (Trichi used to be good), Jadavpur Univ., Roorkie, BHU, etc. (although IITs remain at a level higher than the rest). If you include maths, then count ISI's, which are better than IITs. The rest are just crappy. And I know how crappy can they be from my experience. I have the misfortune of teaching 100's of students who come here with an Anna University (or Osmania) B.Tech./B.E. degree in engineering, and knows absolutely nothing. And I am not exaggerating: they cannot write an elementary program in any language (apparently they learn something called "theoretical" computer programming in which they do not actually learn to program); does not know any mathematics (most cannot integrate x*exp(x); one student could not tell me what is f(0.7) by looking at a graph of x vs. f(x)) and cannot operate simple lab equipments. It is just unbelievable! Anyway, moving on.

    3. M.S. onwards, Indian Universities are bad. The only quality Institute in India in Engineering at the M.S. level is IISc. You have some more in other science related disciplines like TIFR (not sure if they give M.S. degree). IITs are not good at the M.S. level and beyond (in case you did not know: M.S. students in IITs are called "Matka"s and professors never grade M.S. students in the same scale with the B.Tech students in the fear that most M.S. student would then fail! And this indeed happened; true story.).

    There is indeed a severe dearth of qualified Ph.D. graduates in India. I had spoken with the director of Bell Labs in India and he finds it very difficult to find people who can work in R/D as a profession

    The basic problem is finding qualified teaching staffs. Professor's salaries, even in IITs, are about 7-10 times lower than what a qualified person with an equivalent degree currently gets in Industry. No wonder they cannot find faculty members (I have---well, at least had---an open faculty position offer from the director of an IIT; they are desperate for good persons). The compensation gap is too large, even considering nice faculty housing in a good place and good community for your family inside the IIT.

    By the way, no doubt there are crappy universities in the U.S. as well; especially at the M.S. level since there is no accreditation at the M.S. level.



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  • factoryman
    06-21 01:15 PM
    Link to post at IV (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=86268&postcount=5)

    and

    today's Post (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=87874&postcount=131)
    Don't understand what you mean? I could not locate your other post about C&G. Please guide me to that post.
    Also, why in the world do they have to slow down processing PERM applications? And that too the Atlanta Center? May it is time for them to transfer all the cases from Atlanta center to Chicago center and dedicate the Atlanta center to process other work.
    Just does not make sense at all.




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  • swo
    07-20 06:47 PM
    thats one way to look at it. The other way to see this is that:

    - given enough people making noise its possible to get DOS/USCIS to make changes and fix things. this has now been proven.

    -there is a lot more visibility for EB related issues now, so much better chance of recapture or exemption for spouses from VB calculations etc.

    - instead of focus being on filing 485 without visa numbers (which is what IV focussed on for a while) everyone will now focus right at the root of the problem. All 500K are now focussed on solving the main issue.

    My friend, there is validity in what you say. I think there is a general shortage of visas, period. That is the root of the issue. However, we did know that going in. So when we get stuck in that situation we have to remember to distinguish between calling for change and demanding it.

    Also, with all due respect to IV, I think the thing that most likely led to the USCIS turnaround was not our voices, but rather the fact that a law suit would have revealed SERIOUS rule breaking - particularly with regard to issuing of visas to non-security cleared people. I think the USCIS's fear of dealing with a) discovery during court proceedings and b) potentially huge finanicial damages, were the main motivating factors to the turnaround.

    There is no doubt though, that the voices of immigrants did make a difference.

    By the way, this morning I wrote to both Senators Cornyn (for) and Clinton (against) in response to their amendment votes yesterday. I thanked him from trying to bring relief and urged her to show more bravery in solving the crisis at a future opportunity. I urge you all to do the same.



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  • HV000
    07-21 09:04 AM
    Is there a chance that this Amendment can be introduced thru a different bill later this year???

    Important thing to Note here is that Sen.Durbin argued for safeguards for H1B Abuse. If Cornyn and Durbin can make some compromises, then this amendment might pass in the future!![/B]




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  • vandanaverdia
    09-12 07:00 PM
    Great work milind123....

    Lets see some more people come forward & contribute...

    GO IV!!! See you in DC!!!



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  • chanduv23
    02-24 01:17 PM
    Dont assume that people who gone back to India and working a manager are living happily without any issues.
    One of my friends whome I used to work in 2005 was promoted to manager in 2007. Now he is in a dilemma whether to continue to go up the ladder or come back doing technical stuff. Salary wise he is not getting that much and he doesnt know how the company will do infuture. It all depends on US economy. If you are looking for 18L above salary, then it is very very tough to get a job in india.

    That is right. Every place has its problems. And when you are an employee - u r ONLY an employee no matter what. To come up in life or to grow, the onus is on you. It is you who choose what you want to be. If you want to return to your home country, the choice is yours and you must do it wholeheartedly, use your US experience and do something there. The world is full of options and you can chose what you want and percieve.

    Navigating the system in India is not as easy as people think - u will have to tackle crocodiles and sharks for your so called dream job.




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  • syzygy
    09-15 04:05 PM
    GCTest and et al if you have really raised 600 $ talk to good lawyer to sure the hell out of USCIS for its un accountability. This EB3 - EB3 rift is not going to help anyone but only USCIS. Take a chill pill and think carefully who has screwed us most -- IT IS USCIS. If you sue USCIS for unaccountability, changing rules at will and worst of all racial discrimination or new term for country based discrimination -- it is history waiting to happen.

    There is no value or point in creating Eb3 - Eb2 rift. No category is better than either - all are equally and royally screwed by USCIS.



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  • insbaby
    08-13 03:58 PM
    We can write letters, emails, fax, contribute to IV but nothing is gonna help. This is the fact!

    Yes. It may help, but EB3 is not the one who is going to get any piece out of it, as EB2 is increasing in huge amount. Even if it is CURRENT for 10 years, thats not going to help anyone below that level as everyone will qualify for EB2 in future, almost all the future candidates will have minimum of 5 years experience.


    1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any
    motivation to our career.

    Well, if one decided to continue the process of waiting, there won't be any career to talk about at the end.


    2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!

    Not possible for all to go to EB2 as most of the companies hesitate to spend huge amount again and same is applicable to the individual too. It may not be worth at the end to spend another 5K on this. Well said, we should then fight with our own friends (because they may not like us to get the Lion's share) before going to DOS and USCIS.


    3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...

    I am waking up from 'abroad' dream. The real dream in front is "Home", without any issue that works for me.




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  • test101
    07-06 05:46 PM
    Ok here I go again in this Chicken and Egg situation......

    Now that someone filed a lawsuit to invalidate the July VB, which BTW is still CURRENT.......it could invalidate the CURRENT sttatus....of all Eb categories....precisely what DOS USCIS wants....

    My head is spinning.......Beer anyone?

    join the club...news make no sence at all.




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  • priti8888
    07-19 12:45 AM
    This seems very unfair to people who had earlier PDs (2004 & 2005) and who have waited so many years to file. Now, people with PDs in 2007 will jump ahead of them in the queue just because of this fiasco, juts because they filed earlier. :confused:


    dont worry, the above scenario would happen only if pd remaines current.This is highly unlikely. In the next few months PD would retrogress to for instance 2004 , then you'll get your GC first :) Cheer up buddy:)




    gaz
    09-12 12:01 PM
    how about sending balloons with a message on it?

    the balloon would represent our dreams and each passing day of inaction on the part of uscis lets the air out of them

    inflated balloons would be visible also when the delivery arrives




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    07-21 04:26 PM
    Please post. This will help all of us



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